From Milton

Ok, Turn it Up/Jezebel/Prudence Watchman/James

I have read all your accusations and have read all the answers given. The answers are posted for all to read and scrutinize. These answers are real answers that are honest, factual and can be proven by many Witnesses in and out of the Lord Our Righteousness Church. Many of the answers come with scripture showing God's answer as well. Yet when you are asked questions, you fail in answering any of them. Why is that? Why don't you answer the questions put to you with honest real answers that can be scrutinized for everyone to examine? Where are your witnesses to show your innocence?

I will quote back to you some of the questions you have failed to answer. Is your family life one where you and your children are filled with continual praise to God (by your words, Jehovah)? Is your life one where there is continual love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, meekness and faith? Do you keep God's commandments faithfully that includes the Sabbath? Do you honor your parents (their decisions about life and death)?

Jezebel, what about your youngest child? Who is the father, and wasn't there gross infidelity on your part to produce that child? Haven't you been doing the very thing that you have accused Michael of?

If you were to be honest, wouldn't those answers produce a whole different picture than the one you try to present?

It is very obvious and plain that the real reason you are in such huge resistance to Michael Travesser is because He is exactly who He says He is. If He was not you would not have a problem with it at all. And your silence about yourself is proof that you are the exact opposite.

I too am very thankful for this forum. It has given opportunity for everyone to see for themselves the two camps and the God/gods they serve. Michael loves and serves a God of honesty, openness and truth. So do those who follow Him. The camp you belong to serves the god of self-righteousness, hiding, lies, profanity and perversions.

Milton Bernheisel

Posted by: Altheos | Jun 09, 2007 at 09:32 PM

Click HERE to read Prudence's Reply

Click HERE to read Milton's Letter to ME.


Milton,

I don't have anything to defend/say. Unlike all of you. I have made mistakes. I don't think my mistakes are any grosser or better than yours. I am not claiming to be perfect... as you know, that doesn't work. Just take a look in the mirror for a minute. Me NOT defending myself doesn't prove anything. You have always been a good Lie-yer. Trying to make something out of nothing. You would have also made a good Nazi. You sure seemed to enjoy torturing kids. I am sure I can dig up a little bit about that. In fact, one of the kids that fell into your hands was telling me about one experience with you, that I hadn't heard.

Pardon me. I may not have used the right word, so you can say that I am spreading a rumor. But you know what... I have heard a lot of rumors about me from "your side" And I think that you are welcome to think whatever you want about me.... Why Not? I am NOT doing everything that you have been told I am doing. So I said that Wayne had sex with his daughter-in-law. Ok, ex-daughter-in-law/friend/sister. Oh, it wasn't sex.... They consummated/had intercourse. Whatever. It was the same act, the same person. Different word. You said I lied. I have hardly put on any comments at all on Vice. AND the ones I did put on, were not made up. Unlike the rest of you guys. Guess who was the first one on VICE? I will give you one guess. I think Gabriel Travesser had it a little backwards when he said, "welcome to your new home" You guys (The Travesser Family) spend a lot more time there than I do. But you have a lot more time on your hands too!

And as far as GROSS goes... What about Milton? What have you done? What about your converted son that goes to bars with his uncle or did you not know that? What about your NEW wife that you met at a restaurant and "married?? or Consummated with" a couple weeks later or LESS?? Shall we talk about the things that you used to do to kids? Well, You are right. I am saying that Michael is doing what I did and you did (EXCEPT: I didn't say that I was "Righteous" when I did what I did). I am NOT defending myself. I didn't say I didn't do it. DID I? I am not saying what I did was right, DID I? I had two really good examples to follow. One was Uncle Milty and the other was Michael.

Here are your Questions that YOU asked:

Milton: Is your family life one where you and your children are filled with continual praise to God (by your words, Jehovah)?

Prudence: #1. I don’t play the name game. God would work just fine with me. You guys play the name game. Your name changes ALL the time. Some of you have even had your name changed legally, now that will really change your heart.

#2. My family life is happier than it has EVER been. I am enjoying my children for the first time. My children are happier then they have ever been. ALL of us are very Thankful to God (YES EVERY DAY!) AND I was told that one of my children was retarded when I was there, and for your information and anyone else reading this. He is very smart and sensitive to other people around him. When you are told negative things EVERY DAY it makes it very hard to function.

Milton: Is your life one where there is continual love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, meekness and faith?

Prudence: Of course!

Milton: Do you keep God's commandments faithfully that includes the Sabbath?

Prudence: Yes Milton, I keep the commandments… Just like you guys do.

Milton: Do you honor your parents (their decisions about life and death)?

Prudence: I don’t just honor my parents… I love them. I don’t have a problem with my mother dying... Who Lied about that? That is part of Life you KNOW. The part I have a problem with is talking about how it is the only way God can SAVE her from HERSELF. ALL she can talk about is dying. She can’t wait. To me that is sad. I went and spent two weeks with her. 95% of my time was spent with her. I really enjoyed it. Then she was told that I was evil, so she disowned me. I will always remember those last two weeks. My parents have disowned me before… several times. NOT once did I tell her that she couldn’t die. I don’t want her to die, but the choice is hers.

Milton: Jezebel, what about your youngest child?

Prudence: #1. BTW: My name isn’t Jezebel. That sure gave you guys fuel for your fire. NOT once did I call myself that.

#2. What about my youngest child? Well, since I was not under the stress that I was under with the last 3… he is an angel. I couldn’t have asked for a greater blessing. I didn’t know children could be so enjoyable. Michael was right… Children are to be celebrated.

Milton: Who is the father, and wasn't there gross infidelity on your part to produce that child?

Prudence:
infidelity |ˌinfiˈdelitē| |ˌˈɪnfəˌˈdɛlədi| |ɪnfɪˌdɛlɪti|
noun ( pl. -ties)
1 the action or state of being unfaithful to a spouse or other sexual partner
2 unbelief in a particular religion, esp. Christianity.

Prudence: #1. I am living with his father.

#2. GROSS INFIDELITY? No there wasn’t

Milton: “If you were to be honest, wouldn't those answers produce a whole different picture than the one you try to present?”

Prudence: No IT wouldn't. I am not trying to make myself look better than anyone.

Milton: “It is very obvious and plain that the real reason you are in such huge resistance to Michael Travesser is because He is exactly who He says He is.”

Prudence: No it does not prove anything.

Milton: “If He was not you would not have a problem with it at all”

Prudence: I don’t have a problem.

Milton: “And your silence about yourself is proof that you are the exact opposite.”

Prudence: My silence proves that I am not babbling. You guys sure have a lot to say, and most of it is B.S.

Milton: “I too am very thankful for this forum. It has given opportunity for everyone to see for themselves the two camps and the God/gods they serve.”

Prudence: I totally agree on this. I too am very grateful to VICE for giving you guys a little AIR time. I think you needed it, and so did everyone else.

Milton: “Michael loves and serves a God of honesty, openness and truth. So do those who follow Him.”

Prudence: Well, don’t tell anyone about the virgins or about Wendy. It isn’t time for that to come out yet. That isn’t called hiding? Changing words and calling sex something else is lying. People that have been to the meetings recently have said that they had sex. I guess you haven’t been to any meetings lately.

Milton: "The camp you belong to serves the god of self-righteousness, hiding, lies, profanity and perversions.”

Prudence: I am not hiding. I know I am not good. Believe me that has been pounded in pretty good. I am not saying I am like you. Just take a minute and read some of your posts. You are the one who is self righteous. Profanity? I used the word S-H-I-T. That is profane? I learned that word in the meetings with Michael. What perversions? I know there is a member of your commune that used the “F” word RECENTLY. WOW! He also uses other words from time to time. Isn’t that profane?

Well, all of you are alike. One of your friends said that only the devil can copy. ALL of you guys seem to do a pretty good job at copying. You all sound like little robots.

So keep up your ASSuming. That is the only thing that keeps your life interesting.